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Title: Marvel Legendary
Post by: binarymelon on December 04, 2012, 10:44:59 AM
Has anyone given this a try?  I've got a copy coming for Christmas, but won't be able to try it until then.  BoardGameGeeks and the folks at the VS System forum have mostly good things to say about it.
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: thetrooper27 on December 04, 2012, 12:42:26 PM
Never heard of it...
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: binarymelon on December 04, 2012, 05:55:34 PM
http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/129437/legendary-a-marvel-deck-building-game
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: thetrooper27 on December 04, 2012, 10:15:16 PM
I can't tell much by the link, but if I saw enough good reviews, I would get it.  I love to play cards, period.  Any game involving card interaction is cool.  Superheroes and fantasy make it even cooler!  But OverPower and Magic are the two best.  Ever.  The end.

Is this game supposed to have expansion packs come out over the next few years?  I think you get all you need in this one box set, but add ons would make it even cooler.  A game needs growth to have staying power... most of the time.
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: rucker73 on December 04, 2012, 11:16:19 PM
I am psyched to get this one.  My local game store sold out of it's first order on the first day they had it. 

Yes they are planning future expansions.  This summer is supposed to be an X-Force/Marvel knights expansion with more planned every 3-4 months there after.
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: thetrooper27 on December 04, 2012, 11:41:35 PM
Ill probably check it out.  If anyone plays this, please post your experience with it.  I'll likely wait till I get more feedback, but it could be fun... looks like it has alot of rules. 
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: Kal-el on December 05, 2012, 01:01:25 AM
I have it on order but it won't ship until another preorder is released. I'm really excited to play it.
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: gameplan.exe on December 05, 2012, 01:29:30 AM
I'm very interested, but don't have anyone to play it with me up here (yet?)  :'(

Ranerdar bought it, though, and he played it last Saturday (forgot to get his feedback, though). He did point me to this YouTube video for a breakdown/preview: Watch It Played (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRs_ShVTM5Y)

looks pretty cool, plus it has Gambit!  ;D
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: steve2275 on December 05, 2012, 02:35:08 AM
too much stuff to remember
ill stick with overpower
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: thetrooper27 on December 05, 2012, 03:10:54 AM
OverPower has too much stuff to remember. :-X
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: steve2275 on December 06, 2012, 06:16:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/CritsHappen/videos?query=marvel

http://www.gamehead.com/article/1900/legendary-marvel-deck-building-game-upper-deck
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: Bullio on December 06, 2012, 10:59:41 AM
I can say this, at least: it's the first Marvel card game since OP to have piqued my interest on a purely visual level, although it's a bit of shame they reused character art instead of giving each card unique art.  Maybe it's part of the game design?  Anyway, I definitely do not need another money sink.  And I have no one here to play it with, so I'll pass but I'm still curious to hear what people think of it.
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: Kal-el on December 06, 2012, 10:48:17 PM
My copy will be here Saturday. I'll report back how it is.
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: KObossy on December 06, 2012, 11:04:26 PM
I got thru 7 minutes of the solo vid before I gave up. :o
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: Kal-el on December 09, 2012, 09:17:25 PM
Mine showed up. Cards are very nice quality and the artwork is great (if repetitive). Haven't played yet. Still busy sleeving all 550 cards.
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: thetrooper27 on December 09, 2012, 11:26:10 PM
Bet it's awesome.  Sleeving rules.
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: Demacus on March 23, 2013, 01:28:22 PM
I picked this us about two weeks back...  Since then my friends and I have played about 2-3 games together, and I have played about 2-3 solo games.  This game is a lot of fun, and for just $60, (compared to I don't even know how many hundreds I've sunk into OP/VS/M:TG) it is a pretty solid card game.  I find it's much easier to win the games if you are playing alone then with allies, but it is supposed to be for 2-5 players, the single player rules are just a varient in the back of the rule book.

Each of the 5 player games we have played have ended dramatically close to the heroes losing, with one ending in what equates to a draw, as the heroes did not beat the villain, but the villains evil plot did not come to fruition either.

Since the selection of characters that go into each game is supposed to be chosen by random selection, the following might not be helpful, but I have found that certain heroes are clearly stronger then others.  Wolverine, Deadpool, Storm, and Black Widow are among some of the stronger and more useful characters of the 15 that come with the game.  Captain America, Hawkeye, Emma Frost and Nick Fury are pretty well rounded, but some of the other characters are a tad on the weaker side, as they mostly bring tricks and gimmicks to the game that in a normal card game would be considered almost broken, they tend to drag things down if you have a team of them without at least one of the aforementioned heroes on this list.  Iron Man is almost dissapointing, as of the 4 types of cards he brings to the table, only 1 is an actual attack card.  The other three are tricks...  Good tricks for a card game, but tricks none-the-less, and without another good character in your deck, these tricks amount to a lot of nothing.

All said and done, I am quite enjoying this game.  I cannot say that I regret purchasing this, and I am waiting with baited breath for the "Dark City" expansion due out in June/July.  All I know about that expac is that they are planning on bringing Jean Grey in as one of the new heroes and Apocalypse as one of the new villains. 

Excited!
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: SnareguyUT on May 19, 2013, 09:20:34 PM
My wife and I picked this up with some extra Amazon GC, and I gotta say...we LOVE it!  She's been able to grasp the rules more easily than Overpower, as there isn't a ton to remember, but there's just as much strategy involved in how you recruit, who you attack, etc.  We've played over a dozen games, and she's usually the one asking me to play, which never used to happen!

Looking forward to the next set....if you've got a spare $50-60, and a few friends to play with, go for it!  I've played a few solo games, and while its fun, its way better with more people!

Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: Demacus on May 23, 2013, 03:02:26 PM
Definitely more fun with more people...  Solo games are fun, but they are also a lot easier to maintain control of the entire board as you play, where as in a 5 player game, villains tend to escape more easily, as folks worth their ways around the board, trying to recruit heroes for their first couple of turns.  Really well done game.  Happy with Upper Deck's use of the license, (though I'd really love to see OP return as well.)
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: thetrooper27 on May 23, 2013, 11:55:43 PM
Is it complicated?  Hard to catch on?  Easy to teach?
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: steve2275 on May 24, 2013, 02:35:36 AM
Quote from: thetrooper27 on May 23, 2013, 11:55:43 PM
Is it complicated?  Hard to catch on?  Easy to teach?
i did post videos
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: thetrooper27 on May 24, 2013, 11:55:48 PM
I can't view them from my comp, brother steve.  I'll check them out asap though!
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: Demacus on June 04, 2013, 07:27:50 PM
I thought it was fairly easy to learn.  I did a quick read of the rules, and got a group of 5 together and we just started playing.  After about 2-3 rounds, a 6th came in and I gave him my seat/hand, and I picked up the rules, and coached everyone on their turns until it became crystal clear as to what we could or could not do, how to gain an advantage over the villain, etc, etc.  After the game ended, and we all decided to keep Legendary as a potential for our gatherings each week, I headed home.  The next day I was off from work, so I re-read the rules a little more closely and set up a solo player game, just to get a better feel.  Turns out we did about 99% of everything correctly right out of the box, so yeah, I'd say it's got a pretty easy learning curve.

And since I was learning how to play AND teaching it at the same time...  lol  Yeah, that's still kind of easy.  Best $60 I've ever spent on card games.  lol
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: chuu on June 04, 2013, 11:01:09 PM
Has anyone tried out the DC deck building game by Cryptozoic?  I got it in January and my wife and I have played it many times since I bought it.  It's very easy to learn and a lot of fun.  My wife likes it more than overpower because she always beats me...lol. oh, and it was only $30 :D
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: skeevo666 on June 05, 2013, 09:38:33 PM
Why is this in the comic book section?
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: thetrooper27 on June 06, 2013, 12:09:03 PM
I would imagine because it's Marvel related, but isn't OverPower related.  I guess it might have fit better in a different section.
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: TGW on June 30, 2013, 02:16:46 PM
I picked this up earlier in the week; both the base set and the Dark City expansion and I have to say that I am impressed. One of the best deck building games I've ever played, Overpower included. It's fun to play with friends and its really cool to play as a solo game.

I'm using the advanced solo rules and am struggling to defeat Apocalypse. Lets just say that Apoc is nothing like his Overpower counterpart; the man is an absolute beast. His tactic that forces you to reinsert his card back into the Mastermind deck if its not the last card is lethal; I thought I had him on the ropes twice only to have to fight him again and again, which resulted in my loss.

I just setup a solo game against Kingpin with the 'Organized Crime Wave' scheme. I'll see if Nightcrawler, Daredevil and Hulk have what it takes to win. I'd strongly recommend this game to Overpower fans; it's very easy to learn (I watched a couple YouTube videos before the game arrived in the mail and a quick read through the instruction book and I was ready to rock and roll) and is fun to play in groups or solo. In fact, the solo aspect really pushed the game over the top for me. I don't have an OP group anymore as my buddies sold their cards long ago, so when it's not game night I don't have to worry about not being able to play if no one is around (or the wife isn't interested). I also love that the game is well received and is due to release two small expansions of about 100 cards and one large expansion of about 350 cards each year. Fantastic Four is up next in November and I can't wait.

EDIT: The 'Organized Crime Wave' on advanced solo is ridiculously hard. I appreciated the challenge, but I was getting destroyed pretty early and often until I got lucky with some draws and switched up my team to Daredevil, Elektra and Nightcrawler. I still haven't been able to take down Apocalypse, he is very tough. Perhaps I can score a win on the big blue badass this weekend.

Additional impressions: The game is easy to play. It may appear to be daunting at first, but I'm posting this on an OverPower forum, so if you guys have a handle on all the ridiculous meta rules and whatnot for our beloved OP, this game will be EASY to get into. The artwork for the base game is great but repetitive, so it's nice to see that the expansion adds multiple pieces of artwork for the new characters, which really adds to the game. The advanced solo rules also amps up the challenge; I'm losing maybe one out of every three games, usually I'll play three and win one, tie one and lose one, so the variety of each scenario combined with the masterminds and the 32 heroes (31 different characters as Wolverine is in both sets with different cards and teams; X-Men in the base set and X-Force in Dark City) makes for a different game each time you play. Factor in the ability to play a challenging solo game or as a group of up to five players and you have a winner. For me, it's the only card based or deckbuilding game outside of OverPower that has me hooked (I could never get into Vs), so I strongly recommend trying it out.
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: Demacus on September 02, 2013, 01:36:36 PM
Quote from: TGW on June 30, 2013, 02:16:46 PM
I'm using the advanced solo rules and am struggling to defeat Apocalypse. Lets just say that Apoc is nothing like his Overpower counterpart; the man is an absolute beast. His tactic that forces you to reinsert his card back into the Mastermind deck if its not the last card is lethal; I thought I had him on the ropes twice only to have to fight him again and again, which resulted in my loss.

I haven't tried to solo Apoc yet, but PREACH BROTHER!

lol  My brother and I were trying to take him down the other day and 2 games running we failed.  In the first game, which I believe was the Organized Crime Wave (drawn randomly... and a HORRIBLE combination with Apoc I might add) we were destroyed far too easily.  In the second game, (forget which scenario, but it wasn't that one, lol) we fought him to a stalemate, with me actually scoring 3 solid hits on Apoc, but again, that blasted tactic completely screwed us, as it essentially nullified one of the hits.  I was actually able to muster up a 24 point attack in a single turn and nailed him twice, but the second hit was that resetting tactic...  We did screw up a teeny bit though, as we only pulled 4 heroes randomly from the box instead of 5.  We were running Wolverine (Original set), Nick Fury, Emma Frost and Iron Fist.  My brother got totally screwed though, as with Nick Fury's rare, we finally had KO'd enough Shield agents to allow Nick to KO anyone with his rare card and Apoc KO'd the Nick Fury rare right off the top of my brother's draw pile.  Built it up for NOTHING!  He was not happy, and about 4 turns later the villain deck ran out with Apoc still grinning at us. 

Still, I LOVE this game and I can't wait for November!
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: chuu on September 02, 2013, 02:47:28 PM
My buddy got this game and my wife and I played with him 5-6 times now.  We did do the Apoc campaign and lost as well.  I like how complex the game can get but I don't like how long games take to set up and play.  In terms of terms of set up and ease of play, I like the DC deck building game better.  I wish there was an expansion set for that game :D
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: Kal-el on September 02, 2013, 06:49:05 PM
I've played both Legendary and DCDB (horrible name, do they have no imagination at all?) and they both have their strengths. Legendary is definitely the better game, with a clearer theme and overall more enjoyable gameplay. However, as someone else mentioned, it's a longer game. It takes time to set up and it takes time to play. DC on the other hand has no cohesive theme and is pretty much a generic deck builder, but it's quick to set up and quick to play.

While I enjoy Legendary more, I find myself playing DC more often as it's easy to slam through a few quick games in forty minutes.

I've heard the Dark City expansion really adds a lot to Legendary, but I haven't picked it up yet.
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: Shoe on September 08, 2013, 01:01:50 AM
it looks like a lot of fun, I watched the Dice tower video about it and I want to grab the box next time i have the $$...whenever the F that might be :P
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: Demacus on November 05, 2013, 10:49:52 AM
New Fantastic Four expansion for Legendary adds some really nice stuff to the game.  Payment Powers for one thing, when you have WAY too many recruit points and no one in the HQ that really adds to the deck you are trying to build, new villain mechanics, which are interesting and unique (an not always as beneficial as they might seem,) and of course, new Masterminds, including Mole Man (whom I have not yet faced-off against) and Galactus (who my friends and I have failed to defeat 3 times already.)

The new Heroes are, obviously, Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, The Thing, and the Human Torch, with a 5th hero, The Silver Surfer.  Each of these characters is fairly strong in their own right, (The Thing and Mr. Fantastic have great self synergy, if you can catch the right cards in the right hands.)  The Silver Surfer rare, is a non-attack, non-recruit card, but his affect doubles the amount of recruit points currently available, allowing for some heavy recruiting/payment power plays.

All in all, this expansion brings some nice additions to the table, and all for only $19.99 American (plus tax) which is a great cost for a 100 card expansion.
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: gameplan.exe on December 26, 2013, 07:54:09 PM
FINALLY!!! I finally got this game! It only took my grandma being my secret santa. She's 80 now, but she still likes to shop on Amazon, so yeah, lol.

I've played 3 solo games so far and it's better than I expected.

I lost my first game, barely, but learned some crucial things about the flow of the game. So, I reset everything and played it again and won handily. The 3rd game I played, I handpicked all the characters and scenario, because I was nerding out about being a Gambit fanboy and X-Nerd. Again, I won handily.

The impression I've gotten, so far, is that it will be even more fun with live collaboration (what, with that being in the game design, and all  ;)). But I also wondered, in reading through the rules several times, how it might be if I played a game with 3 or 4 or even 5 hands, and I just controlled them all separately...? I know some other people mentioned playing this game solo... has anyone tried this, yet?
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: TGW on December 26, 2013, 10:14:36 PM
I mostly play Legendary solo and really enjoy the game, although I haven't tried playing more than one separate hand at a time yet. I do plan on giving it a shot soon, though. I recently picked up the FF expansion set but haven't got around to trying it out yet.

I will say that that Dark City is a must buy, especially in terms of increased difficulty. Apocalypse is an absolute beast in that game, and the other masterminds such as Kingpin are no chumps either. They are much stronger and far less forgiving masterminds compared to the original set. I've won and lost several games that have come right down to the last hand. I use a slight alteration of the rules when I play to make it more challenging, in fact, I think the alteration I use is an official modification of the rules if I remember correctly.

In any event, the game is great and a productive use of the Marvel license by Upper Deck, which is encouraging. There are more sets in the pipeline, with a Spider-Man themed set coming up in a few months and a major expansion being released this summer. I'm looking forward to it and hope that Black Panther is included in one of the sets being released in 2014.
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: gameplan.exe on December 30, 2013, 01:30:26 PM
Ok, so, I haven't played against Galactus (or anything from FF4), but I'm ready to declare Apocalypse as the WORST! UGH!! I've played him 3 times to a stalemate (all Solo). Most recently, I defeated him 4 times but 3 of those times I drew IMMORTAL AND UNDEFEATED. UGH!! THREE TIMES?!? I think I'm ready to hand-select a team to try and take him down...
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: chuu on December 30, 2013, 01:54:55 PM
I borrowed the game with all the expansions from my friend for me and my wife to play.  We really couldn't get into it, we both hate how long it takes to set up the game in comparison to the DC deck building game.
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: skeevo666 on February 04, 2014, 04:03:30 PM
Anyone who wants to check out Legendary can come to http://gmigames.com/ on the last Sunday of each month (We do OverPower every first Sunday in case you haven't seen that thread :)  )
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: rucker73 on February 13, 2014, 12:33:48 PM
Anyone picking up the new Spidey expansion for this?   I've been waiting for Upperdeck to put it up for pre-order and with release date being less than 2 weeks away I wonder what is taking so long.

Love the game...  mostly the fact that you can play Solo.   Otherwise I would still be playing OP!
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: skeevo666 on February 22, 2014, 05:41:46 PM
Yeah, I'll snag it when it comes out. Haven't seen anything on the FB page for the game about it coming out though :/
Title: Re: Marvel Legendary
Post by: chuu on February 22, 2014, 07:11:32 PM
i'm excited for the new expansion of the DC building game :D