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Rules => Special Cards => Specific Cards => Topic started by: steve2275 on April 03, 2014, 12:36:59 PM

Title: wasp-BS in play MH is played
Post by: steve2275 on April 03, 2014, 12:36:59 PM
can the MH actually damage the opponent in this way?
(http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/1486.png)(http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/1487.png)
Title: Re: wasp-BS in play MH is played
Post by: DiceK on April 03, 2014, 01:10:41 PM
My opinion, yes.

The special card takes on the properties of the power card.

By definition, you're not attacking the opponent if this power card were to "hit" them, otherwise the opponent would have an opportunity to defend, which in this case they do not.
Title: Re: wasp-BS in play MH is played
Post by: BigBadHarve on April 03, 2014, 02:17:21 PM
It would be nice, but the answer is no. It doesn't work that way.

First off, despite saying 'acts as a power card' it does not take on the properties of power cards. If it did, then other cards would also be similarly affected. IE: Master Mold could be used to remove Dynamite Delivery.

Also, the BS card states that the card must be equal. So, unless you're tossing a level nine power card, this trick won't work.

Title: Re: wasp-BS in play MH is played
Post by: Jack on April 03, 2014, 03:10:31 PM
Specials that acts as power cards are the ones that can be used to defend (for the most part).

I'm willing to go through the entire encapsulation explanation about what things become...
Title: Re: wasp-BS in play MH is played
Post by: DiceK on April 03, 2014, 03:44:23 PM
BBH, You got me on the Level 9 Power Card...

Let us use Mojo's (CC) Bodyguard card be used as a better representation of my point.

I think Master Mold could be used to block an attack from this card. 

I am assuming you disagree.  Please explain why?

I would have to do a lot of digging, but I believe I recall a similar discussion on here which indicated that a special card acting as a power card was considered to have the traits of a power card. 
Title: Re: wasp-BS in play MH is played
Post by: BigBadHarve on April 03, 2014, 05:07:37 PM
Meta #84: Specials which indicate that they act as Power cards only act as Power cards in that they can sometimes be used to attack or defend (as specified on the Special). They do NOT take on any other properties of Power cards i.e., they count towards X-Babies K.O., they do NOT fuse with other MultiPower Power cards, they cannot be removed with an EE Special.

I am also sure this discussion has come up, but Meta 84 pretty much sums it up.

It's possible this came up in a discussion over my House Rules - One of my House Rules stipulates the opposite - cards that act as another card type take on said properties. But alas, no one seems interested in making my rule set official. ;)

Now, here's a question for some fun debate:

Can I use the BS special (hmm, what an appropriate code!) from a site with a character like Deathbird who has reserve access with power cards, to protect the front line?
Title: Re: wasp-BS in play MH is played
Post by: AO user on April 03, 2014, 10:17:48 PM
Since they ARE power cards sound like a nice play.  I look forward to a debate  cuz I don't see a prob.  I'm obtuse :D
Title: Re: wasp-BS in play MH is played
Post by: Tussin on April 03, 2014, 10:57:05 PM
it would have been a sweet card if it was 8 Energy instead of 9 :)

but im thinking of this instead for a combo?

(http://oneperdeck.com/cards/specials/1487.png) (http://oneperdeck.com/cards/specials/1431.png)

lot of work just to get a 9 attack off, but its not one per deck and it has defensive utility as well.
Title: Re: wasp-BS in play MH is played
Post by: rucker73 on April 03, 2014, 11:51:06 PM
But the Trickster card explicitly states that the revealed card must be an attack to hit your opponent.  So the Wasp card would be discarded in the event it was chosen.
Title: Re: wasp-BS in play MH is played
Post by: BigBadHarve on April 04, 2014, 12:03:58 AM
Yes, but note where the Shell Game tells you to discard the chosen card if it's not an attack. ;)
Title: Re: wasp-BS in play MH is played
Post by: rucker73 on April 04, 2014, 12:07:12 AM
Yes but the last thing he writes in the post is that it's a lot of work to get a 9 attack...  which will never happen even if he does get the card added to the power pack.

::)
Title: Re: wasp-BS in play MH is played
Post by: steve2275 on April 04, 2014, 09:35:11 AM
wouldn't a 6+3 from a teamwork still be a 9 powercard attack?
I think that's why I asked