I am building a defensive minded deck and need some help in building it.
The deck is...
Captain Mar-Vell
Reyes
Serpent Society
Deathbird
Which Battlesite should i choose? I am leaning twords The Outback.
Whenever I don't have an 8 stat character, I usually try to make up for the lower overall venture by using Krakoa for my battlesite. It has a lot of card advantage, which helps a smaller stat deck like this a lot.
Because your team is heavily defensive, you have a little more freedom with your choice of a site.
As Onslaught says, Krakoa is a great site, with varied defense and tricks.
You might also consider the Concrete jungle. If you are using 'The Marvels' then New Warrior's 'RAGE' card is an especially nice addition.
-BBH
You can't use a battlesite if a character from your tem is on it, so Concrete Jungle is not legal.
Quote from: Onslaught on February 16, 2011, 08:41:41 AM
You can't use a battlesite if a character from your tem is on it, so Concrete Jungle is not legal.
Oops. Sorry about that. Yes, aside from having Serpent Society on your team, Concrete Jungle is a decent option.
Wundagore Mountain and Stark Enterprises might also serve you well. Stark Especially. Again, if you're using the Marvels, you can use Hawkeye's new OPD. In conjunction with Captain Mar-Vell's 'Rick Jones' card, you can twice remove Venture and switch out the reserve character in a single round.
So many options.
-BBH
Just curious, but if using Krakoa, which cards would you guys use to gain so much card advantage? Or, in general, which cards would you use? I've never really considered Krakoa to offer much, in terms of a Battlesite...
Quote from: ncannelora on February 16, 2011, 11:12:13 AM
Just curious, but if using Krakoa, which cards would you guys use to gain so much card advantage? Or, in general, which cards would you use? I've never really considered Krakoa to offer much, in terms of a Battlesite...
Siberian Strength is a tremendous OPD to use for card advantage or, if you're running the Marvels, Millionaire Playboy. Stoic Defender is also awesome if you use Marvels. If you're not running Marvels, Keen Senses is also great for the LO slot. Apache Warrior also replaces itself if it's blocked. So most of the implied card advantage seems to come from Thunderbird.
I love Krakoa. I dont play using Marvel's cards, but...
As mentioned in the post above the OPD Siberian Strength is kindof like your power leech, and then the thunderbird cards you draw a card to replace after using them. So you can potentially make your opponent discard 3 cards, and have you gain 2 cards, by only using these 3 cards under your battlesite. Plus other than the card advantage cards, the rest of the battlesite is really strong. I definetly think Krakoa ranks among the games best battlesites easily, with Onslaught Citadel and The Outback also ranked up there. it really depends on the deck you are running though, there is always a different "best" battlsite based on your deck strategy.
Krakoa is indeed a rockin' site. But you're right, you do need to tailor it to the team.
It's main weakness is a lack of a negate, but if you have a negater or two on your team, you're fine. I use it with a mojoworld base, or my Trick or Treat deck, both of which are double negaters.
But it has enough tricks, and defense to keep you safe and happy.
Yay, Krakoa.
I'm in a rush right this minute, but I'll post my standard krakoa build a little later.
-BBH
Okay, that all makes sense as I look at Krokoa's potential. I'm also a big fan of Angels Neuro-Toxin card.
I think maybe I'll flesh this battlesite out for some use soon.
Thanks for the suggestions, guys!
Post Merge: July 08, 2011, 04:04:33 PM
Speaking of surprising battlesites, I recently used Falls Edge Compound and it was doing some fun, fun stuff for me. I used THE MARVELS, and it looked like this:
Falls Edge Compound
Forge - CD, GA
Havok - FI
Mystique - AG, CA
Polaris - DB, EB
Sabretooth - AD, AR
Strong Guy - HN, BS
I was using it with X-Men: OT and so the potential was huge with Team+2 to all actions and Strong Guy's BS being usable for my whole team. I never got the payoff with that one. I was able to use Mystique's CA well, though, pulling all my hits off of Cable and putting them on Jubilee instead. Good stuff on that site.
As promised, my standard Krakoa build: (I tweak depending on the needs of the team, of course, but this is the basic)
Colossus
Siberian strengh
Haymaker
Thunderbird
Keen senses
Apache Warrior
Polaris
Manipulate magnetism
Direct energy flow (from marvels)
OR
Energy Warp (if not using Marvels)
Angel
Neuro Toxin
High Flyer (marvels)
Wolverine
Tracking senses
Fighting instinct (if NOT using marvels)
Snikt (if using marvels)
Sunfire
Solar Flare
Controlled burn (marvels)
Ionize matter (if no marvels)
I see you finally put Haymaker in there!
As for my suggestion: I would go with Stark if using Marvels and the AoA event set + Sovereign 7.
If you're not using Marvels I'll +1 the Krakoa motion.
Quote from: HotRod on February 17, 2011, 05:11:12 PM
I see you finally put Haymaker in there!
I usually use Haymaker. For that particular buildup I was trying out the organic steel.
-BBH
Quote from: ncannelora on February 17, 2011, 02:05:47 PM
Speaking of surprising battlesites, I recently used Falls Edge Compound and it was doing some fun, fun stuff for me. I used THE MARVELS, and it looked like this:
Falls Edge Compound
Forge - CD, GA
Havok - FI
Mystique - AG, CA
Polaris - DB, EB
Sabretooth - AD, AR
Strong Guy - HN, BS
I was using it with X-Men: OT and so the potential was huge with Team+2 to all actions and Strong Guy's BS being usable for my whole team. I never got the payoff with that one. I was able to use Mystique's CA well, though, pulling all my hits off of Cable and putting them on Jubilee instead. Good stuff on that site.
I know this is going to blow your mindbut i usually use falls edge when making a fighting deck because, in the store i play in, mystique got a fighting version of storms gathering winds.
Most of the time i use Outerspace when making a battlesite, its fairly balanced depending on the deck i switch between starjammers 11 and the draw 3.
BBH you saved me a whole lotta trouble. Im going to go with your Krakoa build, but with out the marvels.
But another question for the forums at large, what battlesite if i wanted is just pure offense. Muir Island?
Quote from: Ravencroft on February 17, 2011, 09:17:12 PM
BBH you saved me a whole lotta trouble. Im going to go with your Krakoa build, but with out the marvels.
But another question for the forums at large, what battlesite if i wanted is just pure offense. Muir Island?
Cool, glad to be of assistance!
For pure assault, I'd actually go with Cape Citadel as a viable option.
You've got a nice variety of offensive specials that are tricky to block. Plus a couple of key defensive cards - avoid, avoid/draw.
Check it out.
-BBH
Quote from: Ravencroft on February 17, 2011, 09:17:12 PM
I know this is going to blow your mindbut i usually use falls edge when making a fighting deck because, in the store i play in, mystique got a fighting version of storms gathering winds.
So the people you at your store just play with their own homemade cards? Have you thought about making your own homemade cards to beat them with?
Quote from: Ravencroft on February 17, 2011, 09:17:12 PM
BBH you saved me a whole lotta trouble. Im going to go with your Krakoa build, but with out the marvels.
But another question for the forums at large, what battlesite if i wanted is just pure offense. Muir Island?
I also like Muir Island as a battlesite quite a bit, but not for pure offense. Almost all battlesites can be made into a pure offense battlesite, but the first to come to mind off the top of my head is Department H. Others noteworthy to look into are Madripoor or Landu Luckman Lake, believe it or not.
for pure offensive potential, I've found that X-Mansion offers some of the most UMPH, particularly if you're using THE MARVELS...
X-Mansion 8 attacks totalling 49 points in venture
Cable - 6F (AN)
Cyclops - 7F (AR), 9E (FT)*
Domino - 6E (AP), 6I (OJ)*
Jean - 4A (AE)
ProfX - 8M (AQ)
White Queen - 3I (JW)
Danger Room has a little more potential (again, especially with a couple of THE MARVELS cards), but it also leaves room for some great defense from Beast and Bishop, too.
Danger Room 8 attacks totalling 46-56 points in venture (see HO & EJ)
Angel - 6E (HO), 4SI (NJ)*
Beast -
Bishop -
Gambit - 8A (HN), 2/8EF (EJ)
Iceman - 10E (AS), 6S (AR)
Rogue - 4AE, 6E (NT)*
QuoteSo the people you at your store just play with their own homemade cards? Have you thought about making your own homemade cards to beat them with?
They arent really home made they are store made. They are "Command D promo cards" that are only legal for use in Command D. Everyone has equal access to them so no one minds, plus they have made Dr Doom, Nightwing, Myphisto, Spiderman, Nova, Mr Freeze, Kamandi, Howard the duck, Apocalypse, and Abomination all playable characters by giving them good cards or cards in general.
youre looking for a offense minded site?
any location with quicksilver
asteroid m (hey quicksilver)
http://www.overpower.ca/cards/specials/1075.jpg
or
http://www.overpower.ca/cards/specials/1076.jpg
http://www.overpower.ca/cards/specials/1077.jpg
http://www.overpower.ca/cards/specials/1081.jpg
http://www.overpower.ca/cards/specials/1082.jpg
or hawkeye
i also like avalon
3 different aa to chose from
ab ae (2 ac[im not sure that happens as a battlesite] 3 ad to chose from 4 ag to chose from for a lil xtra defense) an ap 2 aq choices prof x does have the intell stat 2 ar choices 2 as choices 2 av choices ax
you get the idea