Here's my deck!
Scarlet Witch - Onslaught - Holocaust
Havok: Mutant X
Event set: The Brave and the Bold
Battlesite: Wakanda
Specials,
2 Raw Power
Dark Enigma
Cannon Fodder
Marciless Conqueror
3 Otherwordly Evil
Apocalyptic Minion
Death Cannon
2 Change Outcome
Hex Power
Annihilate
Collateral Damage (Marvels)
Activators,
3 Black Panther - AG, JZ, KM
3 Storm - CD, ON (Marvels) LJ (Morlocks)
3 Hawkeye - EJ, AL, OR (Marvels)
2 Doctor Doom - AH, AC
2 Vision - CN, AA
Beyonder
Power Cards,
8 - E, E, A
7 - E, I, A
6 - E, S, A
5 - I, M, A
4 - S, M
3 - S, M
2 - M
1 - M
Teamworks,
8 E - S + I
7 E - S + I
7 I - E + S
6 S - E + I
Ally,
5 F
5 I
Artifacts,
Image Inducer
Events,
Move Reserve to front line for remainder of battle
KO 1 front line hero
Total: 56
Have at it!
Good deck, I like it, a friend of mine use to play with a deck similar to this (same front-line, at least), and proved it can be quite effective. How did you come to your mission choice, here? I thought Infinity Gauntlet would be great for it with no any heroes and no fighting power cards events. The KO event is awesome and I love it, but it's an interesting choice for this deck, could you explain more to be about your thinking behind TB&TB?
Quote from: drdeath25 on March 06, 2011, 05:59:35 PM
Good deck, I like it, a friend of mine use to play with a deck similar to this (same front-line, at least), and proved it can be quite effective. How did you come to your mission choice, here? I thought Infinity Gauntlet would be great for it with no any heroes and no fighting power cards events. The KO event is awesome and I love it, but it's an interesting choice for this deck, could you explain more to be about your thinking behind TB&TB?
Thanks man!
That is true, Infinity Gauntlet would be a solid choice as well. The reason for TB&TB is for the KO combo on Scarlet Witch for the +8 Venture right off the bat, it also brings up Havok with the 7, or 9. Ontop of that it also brings up the opponents reserve character, which is really nice if it's someone like 3 stat Spider Woman, or Silver Sable, because you can punish him for having a weak reserve character. With the Black Panther KM you can (afaik) still use Hex Power for venture, even if Scarlet Witch is Dead. So the idea here is that you always have playable cards, even with the KO event, but your opponent may not.
This deck in general works like a subtle discard deck, between the KO, Storm ON, Hawkeye OR, Onslaught GE, and Holocaust GF. All of these cards will gain you card advantage, and also provide similar effects to pure avoids. Even though they are hard to play, you can be extremely greedy with this deck and venture 3+ missions consistently.
Nice.
We'll have to test it out. You and your dad available for a small gathering next week? Say Wednesday?
-BBH
My brother played this deck agaisnt you on the 26th, and from the sounds of it he would have beat you if he knew to negate the Viking Pyre. :P
I don't know what he's doing next wednesday, and I'm not sure how much of a hurry I'd be in to do the 5 mile walk/bus > train > 3 mile walk/subway > bus > 1-2 kilometre walk untill it warms up some (-22c the last time!).
i'd love to see the Pyre deck list?
I'm not sure if BBH will post it before the next tournament, maybe if you coaxed him enough he might.
I would like to see more people post decks card by card, and not be afraid of internet tough guys!
People posting their decks card by card would certainly prove valuable for me to kind of let me know if I'm on the right track with my deck-building skills. :)
Quote from: Nate Grey on March 08, 2011, 03:36:54 AM
People posting their decks card by card would certainly prove valuable for me to kind of let me know if I'm on the right track with my deck-building skills. :)
Agreed. I'm trying to pick up as much as I can, but when I go to put a deck together I'm still somewhat at a loss as to how many of each I should put it. I made a very simple, original OP only, deck last week to play against my brother who is just starting to play and has very limited cards. I got to a place that I wasn't drawing too many dupes/unusables, but it was by no means a powerhouse deck. Specifics on deck contents would be amazing.
How good are the Onslaught expansion cards, because I really don't have very many at all, but they seem pretty popular?
Holocaust is really good.
Quote from: Palatinus on April 07, 2011, 10:47:41 PM
How good are the Onslaught expansion cards, because I really don't have very many at all, but they seem pretty popular?
Pretty darn good. Although the set is obviously very small in terms of the number of cards (~30), in terms of playability it was almost like a complete expansion set.
You had:
Onslaught - a dual skill energy/intellect powerhouse. A bit expensive but with lots of useable specials.
Holocaust - a character with a negate when this was becoming an essential feature in decks. Only a level 7 energy but with a 6 in strength Holocaust was actually quite cheap for a two skill character - especially one that had some decent cards.
Post was the weakest link but once Monumental came out Post got some action as Onslaughts Citadel became a popular battlesite and Post had some very battlesite worthy specials
The set was very hard to collect just from the comics because the hero cards were extremely rare. I had to go down to LA the week it came out and visited several big comic stores. I probably looked through hundreds of comics to find a set of the hero cards! Because of the way they were packed in cellophane in the comics you couldn't tell what one of the cards was but if you knew what Overpower cards looked like you could tell if it was a hero or a special.
I was thinking of picking up the cards on eBay, but they are fairly expensive. It seems like it would be a fun deck to make, though. And I really enjoyed the Onslaught story lines in the comics.
The Onslaught cards were hard to collect at the time but definately worth it.
When Onslaught came out he was arguably best character in the game at the time. If you have to pay 23 points for a grid a triple skilled 8-7-6 is nothing to sneeze at. Plus he had 7ARs in his one off-skill.
Holocaust too is very nice as a dual skill 17 who negates, has a multi 8 and an AG avoid to protect himself, and an attack that heals him if it hits. Even Dark Beast was a tournament staple since he has all the goodness of Beast for 1 point less cost.
The thing that also makes the Onslaught characters fun is they all have unique or very rare tricks.
Onslaught can KO teammates to wipe out venture. No one else does this. In IQ he was given the ability to make himself unattackable unless a target teammate is KO'd first--only Mandarin and Neron can duplicate this strategy.
Holocaust can move hits in his current battle to permanent record to whipe out venture. no one else does this.
Post can make himself immune to events. For a long time no one else could do this, now only Maveick (from the last set released) can do this too. Post can move hits on opponents permanent record back into current battle, no one else can do this. Post can play an oppont's placed cards, no one else can do this.
I think that is ultimately why these cards get mentioned so much, no one else can do these things. That they also exist on the same battlesite also accounts for their popularity
It definitely sounds like a lot of fun. When I finally get my act together with Overpower Online I think I will put together an Onslaught deck just to see how it plays.
If I were to build another Onslaught Deck to play competitively with I would probably go with something like:
X-Man - Onslaught - Mr. Fantastic
Dr. Strange (with Marvels)
With a team like this Onslaught isn't as much of a standout target, which would probably allow you to get away with 2 Merciless Conquerors.
The makings of a good Onslaught deck should get the most use out of MC, it's really his most abusive special. Otherwise you may as well chuck Spawn in there, which is what most people ended up doing in the end.
After crawling out of a lab with tattered clothing and a face full of soot, I came to the conclusion a while back that the "best" Onslaught team is:
Bastion, Prof X, Donald Pierce, Onslaught (R) w/ Any Heroes. I almost always have some sort of Onslaught deck on hand, but if I were to use him in a theoretical tournament situation it would be with this team.
Quote from: Hot Rod on April 11, 2011, 05:13:12 PMThe makings of a good Onslaught deck should get the most use out of MC, it's really his most abusive special. Otherwise you may as well chuck Spawn in there, which is what most people ended up doing in the end.
Of coooouuurse. Lol!
I think those two deck propositions, Onslaught/Hot Rod, are worth a "verses" test for "supreme-onslaught-deck". Dun! Dun! Duuuuun! *dramatic music*
Onslaught in Reserve reminds me of that deck Cherie Briggs was running at the 1997 Nationals.
I can see that deck working pretty well simply by the effect of "Addition by Subtraction."
Even though you can't run either of the 2 best battlesites, you can get away with a fair amount of defense with Any Heroes because you don't need to live through a potential 1st turn Devourer, or to defend Onslaught.
Also if you don't use it yourself, you can easily shrug off the KO event which is nice.
Quote from: Onslaught on April 11, 2011, 07:10:36 PM
After crawling out of a lab with tattered clothing and a face full of soot, I came to the conclusion a while back that the "best" Onslaught team is:
Bastion, Prof X, Donald Pierce, Onslaught (R) w/ Any Heroes. I almost always have some sort of Onslaught deck on hand, but if I were to use him in a theoretical tournament situation it would be with this team.
And see, this is something that holds me back in Overpower: My conscience!
I simply cannot put Professor X on a team with Onslaught. Or Professor X on a team with Bastion, for that matter. Maybe I can envision some situation where ProfX and Donald Pierce are teamed, but otherwise,
"It's no good, I can't do it!"
(Solid Snake, when you try to shoot Gray Fox during his final monologue MGS1 :)).
Quote from: ncannelora on April 12, 2011, 11:37:13 AM
Quote from: Onslaught on April 11, 2011, 07:10:36 PM
After crawling out of a lab with tattered clothing and a face full of soot, I came to the conclusion a while back that the "best" Onslaught team is:
Bastion, Prof X, Donald Pierce, Onslaught (R) w/ Any Heroes. I almost always have some sort of Onslaught deck on hand, but if I were to use him in a theoretical tournament situation it would be with this team.
And see, this is something that holds me back in Overpower: My conscience!
I simply cannot put Professor X on a team with Onslaught. Or Professor X on a team with Bastion, for that matter. Maybe I can envision some situation where ProfX and Donald Pierce are teamed, but otherwise,
"It's no good, I can't do it!"
(Solid Snake, when you try to shoot Gray Fox during his final monologue MGS1 :)).
Don't doubt the ability of the comics to put something like this or more ridiculous together. When looking at the Emotional Outburst card for Storm today I was reminded of this time when Doctor Doom was turning Storm into a statue which triggered her claustrophobia and caused her to whip up a seriously dangerous Storm (much to Doom's surprise. 8 Intellect. Nice.) which was starting to threaten the castle. So Doom throws some ball filled with the magical power of science at her to turn her back to human so she would stop making the storm. Surprisingly though, she didn't just calm down and make the weather all nice. She actually got madder and made the storm worse! (Seriously Doc Doom. A Sentinel could have come up with a better way to handle that.)
So I'm thinking, wait, what was the point of turning her into a statue again? Wait, why can someone be turned into a statue? Wait, why does throwing that ball undo the statufication? Comics can be dumb sometimes.
ive got
onslaught scarlet witch white queen professor x(r) 75 points
and no...i dont have any shadow king cards ;)
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those are the only specials i dont have