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Rules => Game Mechanics => Attacking => Topic started by: gameplan.exe on April 14, 2011, 01:50:49 PM

Title: Battlesite attacked, secondary effects
Post by: gameplan.exe on April 14, 2011, 01:50:49 PM
So, in reading the rules, it's my understanding that any Secondary Effects (SE) from special cards (if successful...) will take effect when the Hit lands on a Battlesite, as long as the SE is not based on "Target [character]"... This seems like a bit of strategy I've neglected to this point. In general, Battlesites are harder to defend than characters, in that, they're restricted much more.

So, if my understanding of the rule is correct, Juggernaut's BATTERING RAM would lose it's SE, since it says "target must", but Alpha Flight's PUCK would still count as an 8 vs. the Battlesite, when it lands.

In most cases, you are sacrificing the VT for this, but a few cards came to mind that seem well worth it to me:

Quote* NEURO-TOXIN (HO) <XM> {C}
        Acts as a level 6 Energy attack. If successful, Opponent is -4 to
            Venture.
Useful if you know they can block the 6 with an avoid, may be worth trying the Battlesite for the Venture effect.

Quote* MUTANT X (FI) <XM> {C}
        Acts as a level 3 Intellect attack. If successful, Havok may
            immediately draw 2 cards from top of Draw Pile. Discard if
            duplicate.
Great potential there, i think

Quote* INTESTINAL FORTITUDE (OA) <XM> {R} [OPD]
        Acts as a level 7 Strength attack. If successful, Opponent must sort
            through Draw Pile and discard first 3 Special cards into Dead Pile.
            Reshuffle Draw Pile.
This one seems to be the most useful, to me at least. This card is a killer early, regardless of the 7 itself.

Quote* TRACKING SENSES (OB) <MP> {X}
        Acts as a level 5 Intellect attack. If successful, Wolverine may sort
            through Draw Pile, select any Aspect card and play it immediately.
            Reshuffle Draw Pile.
Again, seems well worth the lost 5 Venture points. That's not really why we use this card, is it?

These are just the ones I thought of, there may be others out there.
Title: Re: Battlesite attacked, secondary effects
Post by: Onslaught on April 14, 2011, 04:44:28 PM
Harpoon on the battlesite was a common and effective tactic. Benassi Rocket is good for this too.
Title: Re: Battlesite attacked, secondary effects
Post by: Nostalgic on April 14, 2011, 05:13:46 PM
Fascinating....

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I'll definitely look into more possibilities with that.
Title: Re: Battlesite attacked, secondary effects
Post by: BigBadHarve on April 14, 2011, 05:27:28 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on April 14, 2011, 04:44:28 PM
Harpoon on the battlesite was a common and effective tactic. Benassi Rocket is good for this too.

Didn't they remove that entirely? I remember being told that you had to target a front line character for any such effect....

-BBH
Title: Re: Battlesite attacked, secondary effects
Post by: gameplan.exe on April 14, 2011, 05:38:02 PM
Quote from: BigBadHarve on April 14, 2011, 05:27:28 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on April 14, 2011, 04:44:28 PM
Harpoon on the battlesite was a common and effective tactic. Benassi Rocket is good for this too.

Didn't they remove that entirely? I remember being told that you had to target a front line character for any such effect....

-BBH

I hope not! I only know what I was able to read in the Meta Rules, which essentially highlight the fact that the Battlesite is not a Character, so any SE that applies to a Character would be lost on a Battlesite...
Title: Re: Battlesite attacked, secondary effects
Post by: BigBadHarve on April 16, 2011, 11:00:08 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on April 14, 2011, 05:38:02 PM
Quote from: BigBadHarve on April 14, 2011, 05:27:28 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on April 14, 2011, 04:44:28 PM
Harpoon on the battlesite was a common and effective tactic. Benassi Rocket is good for this too.

Didn't they remove that entirely? I remember being told that you had to target a front line character for any such effect....

-BBH

I hope not! I only know what I was able to read in the Meta Rules, which essentially highlight the fact that the Battlesite is not a Character, so any SE that applies to a Character would be lost on a Battlesite...

Yeah, I was surprised when I read that myself, as I'd always been told that conditional secondary effects only apply when you target an actual character.

-BBH
Title: Re: Battlesite attacked, secondary effects
Post by: Demacus on August 04, 2011, 02:58:48 PM
Benassi Rocket?
Title: Re: Battlesite attacked, secondary effects
Post by: gameplan.exe on August 04, 2011, 03:02:07 PM
Quote from: Demacus on August 04, 2011, 02:58:48 PM
Benassi Rocket?

Definitely! Since it says, "Opponent must discard..." then its secondary would still take effect, even if it was the Battlesite that took the 7A.