i was looking at putting Cable in a deck recently, and i was admiring his high number of quality cards. then it occured to me, that i was essentially making all of his Specials OPDs, by only using one of them. then i thought, i wonder how a deck might play out if i did this for my whole roster. then i realized how close it was to having the whole deck look that way...
so, here's the challenge: make the best deck possible, with ZERO duplicate cards. use an Event or not, and use The Marvels or not, but get the best 51 (or 56) individual cards together that you can. i imagine the general builds will look the same (8 power cards, 2 or 3 tw cards, etc), but let's see what kinds of rosters we can cook up!
what's your idea?
Post Merge: July 11, 2011, 08:20:07 PM
btw, Cable didn't make the cut for this deck :D
Beyonder
Storm Neutralized
Hawkeye
X-babies
I've managed to squeak in at 51 cards.
-BBH
Quote from: BigBadHarve on April 26, 2011, 11:54:29 AM
Beyonder
Storm Neutralized
Hawkeye
X-babies
I've managed to squeak in at 51 cards.
-BBH
Nice!
I'd considered both Storm:N and X-Babies, but I completely neglected the incredible flexibility and security that Beyonder would bring to this setting! It makes it tough that he has no cards of his own, but with Storm:N having
so many I could easily see how you could make up a lot of ground there!
Kudos!
Post Merge: July 11, 2011, 08:20:00 PM
I went with this
Professor X - 8m, 6i*, 4e, 3v, AV, BG, AG, AH, EQ, AJ
Iceman - 10e, 6s, 6f*, 4e, 3v, AI, AD, AG, CM
Bishop - 9e, 8m, 4f, 4i, AC, AG, AY, HD, OG*
Sunfire - 9m, 4s*, 3f
AnyHero - 7s, 4f, 3v, AC, AG, AL, DB, BQ, BY, EN, ZZ
PC: 8a, 7a, 6a, 5a, 4m, 3i, 2f, 1i
TW: 7e+fi, 6e+fi
Ally: 5S
Cosmic Control Rod
A-Next
Fighting Spirit Lives! (Event from Assault On Onslaught)
Played a few games in this format. It's interesting.
I tell you, I'd thought about trying to build a deck this way before, but never actually got around to doing it.
It's fun knowing you'll never have a duplicate when you draw your hand. ;D
It often comes down to who goes first. Breadmaster and I were launching brutal chains at one another, knowing that defense was limited. It was quite the slaughter. Good times!
-BBH
cool! What was breadmaster running?
Captain America, The Hand, Hawkeye and Wonder Woman.
I was using Team X, Storm Neutralized, Bullseye and Maverick.
Quote from: BigBadHarve on April 28, 2011, 01:31:46 PM
Captain America, The Hand, Hawkeye and Wonder Woman.
I was using Team X, Storm Neutralized, Bullseye and Maverick.
Interesting! Did you go with Bullseye because of his card, "Everything Is A Weapon"?
I played a few games this morning with my "OPD" team vs. Ranerdar (Hawkeye, Green Arrow, Daredevil, Batman, and a few DC homemades).
First game was actually pretty quick. I placed my entire hand, then conceded from the top. So, my second hand, I had 14 cards (including an HQ), and I got ahead on my Missions pretty quickly from there. I won after about 5 hands.
Second game was very, very interesting! It came down to Bishop vs. Batman, but here's the kicker: we made it to the Power pack. For me, that meant my Power "pack" - since I only had 7 Power cards at that point! I had the Mephisto AnyHero placed to Team Overpower and I had Bishop's AG placed. So, I bet all I could (I think 5) on that hand, then went for the win on the next hand. Very unique experience, being in the Power pack, and knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt that I will draw a perfect 1 through 7!
Yeah, it's an interesting experiment.
I didn't use everything's a weapon. I went with Bullseye because he's an 18 point character with an 8 on his grid. Plus his attacks are all spectrum hits.
Of course, having an 8 on the grid doesn't make too much of a difference in this format... other than getting two more cards to add to your total.
-BBH
so, it turns out that i really like this concept and may be stuck on finding new rosters for a while. i recently thought:
i wonder which Homebases can pull this off?
that's my evolved endeavor - finding a Homebase to do this! consider it OPD Challenge 2.0
thoughts?
Seeing such a worthwhile idea has inspired me to try to come up with an alternate format of my own. A deck where you only use one of each card? What about one where you only use one card total! Here's the restrictions:
-Your characters must have at LEAST seven instances of the letter "A" but cannot contain more than nine. For example, Spawn, Heroes for Hire, Spider Girl, Spider-Woman is an illegal deck for this format because it only contains "A" twice.
-Your sum deck total must equal 73 exactly
-Alien Symbiote is banned (years of testing has proven it's too powerful in this format)
-You must use a mission set that was not released in any of the following sets: Original, Powersurge, DC, IQ, JLA, Monumental, Classic, Image, X-Men
-You may only include 56 copies of the same card in your deck
Here's my team:
(http://img.imgur.com/9ZTmtl.jpg)
This is the ideal setup - one Snow Blind placed, then draw your hand giving you a total of nine Snow Blinds for
the turn. Notice how I have preemptively ventured four before drawing since I know my hand is going to be so good.
Malebolgia, Twoface: Crime Boss, Iceman, 3 stat Adam Warlock (Reserve), Assault on Onslaught missions
Decklist:
Snow Blind
Snow Blind
Snow Blind
Snow Blind
Snow Blind
Snow Blind
Snow Blind
Snow Blind .... and so on (Snow Blind x56)
Now, I'm looking for some input on this deck. Mainly, I'd like suggestions on a different set of missions to use. Try to keep the theme of the deck intact as well, please (I want to abuse the ability to keep duplicates). How do you think this deck will work?
@ Onslaught
you know, you're not required to reply to my posts, right? I mean, I understand that you disapprove of the way I build decks, but then why not just stay out of the conversation? Or was this meant to be funny, somehow?
I thought it was amusing.
maybe it's because I'm the butt of the joke, but it just doesn't seem funny. I guess it seems too predictable.
don't let it get to you
bbh and i have both built these decks and have had a couple games of opo with em.
will they win tournaments...no. but they're a fun little distraction for a while.
and bringing a little fun into the world is never a bad thing
I'd hate to be a "rules lawyer" but I was only able to count 5 instances of the letter A in your team lineup- I'm going to have to give you a game loss. - Seriously though, a "highlander" format was actually a sanctioned and popular format with unique prize support during Decipher's Lord of the Rings CCG heyday. I'd play Highlander simply because I didn't have the cash to buy x4 of all the 50+ dollar power rares that the top decks required.
Not everyone has the cash to put together an onslaught citadel battlesite... and the outback functions as a poor man's equivalent.
I realize that may not logically follow but the point was that alternate formats can be entertaining...
cool.
I'll play along, though. I really think this is the better build:
Gambit - Charge Object, Charge Object ... and so on (Charge Object x56)
Angel: Horseman Of Apocalypse
Polaris
Deathbird
Assault On Onslaught missions
I figure this way,
I get to use my favorite character.
I will have 56 duplicates of a single card.
I hit the 7 letter "A"s
I hit the 73
and there's a sub-theme that they were all Horsemen of Apocalypse!
Post Merge: July 11, 2011, 08:20:16 PM
Also, I have all of those cards I listed for my deck, except the 56 charge objects. I think I have 4 ;)
I can donate 15-20 in a pinch. Now hook me up with and equil number of Ghostly phases so I can build my Shadow Cat version!!!!
Quote from: CoS on May 05, 2011, 02:21:00 AM
I'd hate to be a "rules lawyer" but I was only able to count 5 instances of the letter A in your team lineup- I'm going to have to give you a game loss. - Seriously though, a "highlander" format was actually a sanctioned and popular format with unique prize support during Decipher's Lord of the Rings CCG heyday. I'd play Highlander simply because I didn't have the cash to buy x4 of all the 50+ dollar power rares that the top decks required.
Not everyone has the cash to put together an onslaught citadel battlesite... and the outback functions as a poor man's equivalent.
I realize that may not logically follow but the point was that alternate formats can be entertaining...
he hit 7
icemAn, mAlebolgiA, two-fAce, AdAm wArlock
but, i also noticed he's at 73 with a 15deck... limit is 72.
then again, he may be mocking my previous comments on how i feel about Sum Deck Rule ;)
I can't count... Or at least not well this late ???
So, I've successfully made a HomeBase deck with this concept. Using only 7-8 specials per hero, lots of Any Heroes, more ally cards than I've ever used in a single deck...
In a few test games it's done considerably well. I can see it's going to take some considerable finesse to figure out how to best play with the deck, but it's been a lot of fun so far. I'm really looking forward to the weekend to test it out with other players!
Quote from: CoS on May 05, 2011, 02:21:00 AM
I'd hate to be a "rules lawyer" but I was only able to count 5 instances of the letter A in your team lineup- I'm going to have to give you a game loss. - Seriously though, a "highlander" format was actually a sanctioned and popular format with unique prize support during Decipher's Lord of the Rings CCG heyday. I'd play Highlander simply because I didn't have the cash to buy x4 of all the 50+ dollar power rares that the top decks required.
Not everyone has the cash to put together an onslaught citadel battlesite... and the outback functions as a poor man's equivalent.
I realize that may not logically follow but the point was that alternate formats can be entertaining...
LOL, I was re-reading this thread... I just realized what a "highlander" format is! *facepalm* because of the movie's tagline, "there can be only one" I'm such a dork sometimes! ;D
Wow... from May till today? Lol. Nice... That aside, I'd love to play a highlander style deck. Gotta get my ass in the current tourney first.
Quote from: ncannelora on May 12, 2011, 01:10:39 PM
So, I've successfully made a HomeBase deck with this concept. Using only 7-8 specials per hero, lots of Any Heroes, more ally cards than I've ever used in a single deck...
In a few test games it's done considerably well. I can see it's going to take some considerable finesse to figure out how to best play with the deck, but it's been a lot of fun so far. I'm really looking forward to the weekend to test it out with other players!
So, I have decided to try out a new Home Base for a "highlander" deck. I figure, it needs to have something going for it, revolving around the 8 Power cards. I need a clear strategy to win when I make it to the Power pack and I know I'll have that perfect 8 card draw.
enter... Department H(ighlander)!
I haven't played with this deck yet, but I did make a rough build in OPO deck builder.
Line Up:Alpha Flight - 10A, 9SI, 5SI, 4EF, 2/8E, AD
Wolverine - 8F, 5I, 4F, AC, AG, EQ, BE, FD, HG,
Sabretooth - 7S, 4F, 2/8I, AD, AD, BE
Maverick - BG
Any Heroes - 7S, 4F, 3V, AC, AG, AL, BE, BQ, BY, DB, EN, ZZ (most of you know my POV re: DoW)
Power cards: 8F, 7F, 6F, 5M, 4M, 3S, 2S, 1S
Teamwork cards: 8Fsi, 7Fsi, 6Fsi, 6Ifs
Ally cards: 5E, 8F, 5S, 5I
Aspect cards: A-Next / Secret Directive
Artifact cards: Pym Particles / Shadowhelm / Adamantium
Event cards: Hellfire Club Attacked!
It seems fairly strong, in terms of total offensive output. It kinda misses on its Inherent Ability, only having the 4 Teamwork cards, but like I said above, in the Power pack, if my missions let me go FTW, I should be able to just trade hits, if Secret Directive is in play.
Pym Particles should help in 2 ways, getting to the Power Pack quicker, but also having 10 cards w/no duplicates - where my opponent is more likely to have a few.
Having several ways to attack after my Opponent concedes should help me keep the pressure on, in terms of turn advantage. Also, it should help me still get use out of cards when I'm all placed up and I draw 10 cards. My opponent cannot just place to match and concede (as easily) Plus, based on the feedback in the link below, Standoff is just that much more lethal!
http://www.beenhereandthere.com/SMF/index.php?topic=424.0 (http://www.beenhereandthere.com/SMF/index.php?topic=424.0)
The Event, which was still a hard one to choose, has at least these 4 reasons behind it.
1) Maverick is the most expendible.
2) If he has the BG placed, I might be able to get it into play, defensively, from Reserve.
3) The 2 teammate avoids become much more handy.
4) If my opponent shifts an attack to Reserve early, to avoid a KO, it might backfire when I get Adamantium in play.
I need to build it IRL to try it out later, though. For now, all of my OPOnline time is tied up in our Tourney. I just wanted to update on this "highlander" concept for all of my curious fans ;) In all seriousness, though, like I said before, this concept has me very intrigued and I imagine I'll be toying with it for quite awhile!
In the meantime, you're invited to constructively criticise and comment ;D
I like the idea, and have even gone so far as to construct a Highlander deck of my own. Question... If you were to use a battlesite, you'd be restricted to 1 special from each character on the site?
I would say your choice of any of the 19 or so Any Heroes would be better then just about any 6 a battlesite would offer, but I guess that depends on what you are shooting for.
Quote from: Demacus on July 19, 2011, 04:59:02 PM
I like the idea, and have even gone so far as to construct a Highlander deck of my own. Question... If you were to use a battlesite, you'd be restricted to 1 special from each character on the site?
I would say your choice of any of the 19 or so Any Heroes would be better then just about any 6 a battlesite would offer, but I guess that depends on what you are shooting for.
For my purposes, you'd only have 7 available activators. the six named on the battlesite + Beyonder. I had another deck on paper that would be able to use a Battlesite instead of the Any Heroes, but it didn't include an Event, so I was able to cut down to 51 cards. I never played with it, though.
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So, with the most recent OP Online Tournament all but finished for me, I thought I'd come back to this thread to share my deck breakdown. I did, in fact, go with the OPD Challenge in the tourney. I had built the following version, and used it several times w/live opponents.
Muir Island Line Up:Shadowcat - 6A, 6F*, 5F, 4E, 2/10A, AG, AD, HQ
Professor X - 8M, 6I*, 4E, AG, AH, BG, AV
Colossus - 7F, 4S, AC, AG, LO, OC, AX, AI
Capt. Brit. - 9ES
Any Heroes - 7S, 4F, 3V, AC, AG, AL, BQ, BY, DB, EN, ZZ
Power cards: 8E, 7A, 6I, 5I, 4I, 3I, 2I, 1I
Teamwork cards: 6E+si, 7S+ei, 6S+ei
Basic Universe: 6I+3
Ally cards: 6As, 5E, 5S, 5F
Aspect cards: A-Next / Genetic Research
Artifact cards: Pym Particles / Book Of The Darkhold
Event cards: Best Laid Plans...
Ultimately, I consider the deck a success. Read here for more details on its showing:
http://www.beenhereandthere.com/SMF/index.php?topic=464.msg5184#msg5184 (http://www.beenhereandthere.com/SMF/index.php?topic=464.msg5184#msg5184)