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Rules => Game Mechanics => Discarding => Topic started by: Bios on March 23, 2012, 01:09:19 PM

Title: Specials with the same code from the same character are considered duplicates?
Post by: Bios on March 23, 2012, 01:09:19 PM
Acording to the rulebook:
• Duplicate Special Cards —A Hand may only include one of each specific Special card. Duplicates must be immediately discarded. Remember, a number of different Characters can do the same things. Special cards that function the same, but are for two different Characters are not duplicates.

Apocalypse and Dethlok have specials with the same codes.
(http://www.overpower.ca/cards/specials/78.png) (http://www.overpower.ca/cards/specials/79.png)

By reading that "a Hand may only include one of each specific Special card", I have doubts if it means "specific code". Any opinions?

Title: Re: Specials with the same code from the same character are considered duplicates?
Post by: Jesse on March 23, 2012, 01:49:10 PM
IMO having these two cards in the same hand would be okay because they are "different specials." Here's my reasoning (completely ignoring the fact the special's have different names and merely going by the code): When you have an Any Hero OPD it will specifically says "counts as a duplicate of any any hero -- specials" and standard hero specials like these do not. But I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Specials with the same code from the same character are considered duplicates?
Post by: gameplan.exe on March 23, 2012, 02:47:51 PM
yeah, not to mention all of the coding errors that were in effect early in the game. Jubilee has 2 cards coded "AG" but one is for a teammate, one is for herself (I think CaptainA's and Cable's are the same way). We've always based duplication on the Special itself, not the codes. If the codes had been defined and separated better, then coding could have worked.
Title: Re: Specials with the same code from the same character are considered duplicates?
Post by: Jesse on March 23, 2012, 02:49:21 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on March 23, 2012, 02:47:51 PM
yeah, not to mention all of the coding errors that were in effect early in the game. Jubilee has 2 cards coded "AG" but one is for a teammate, one is for herself (I think CaptainA's and Cable's are the same way). We've always based duplication on the Special itself, not the codes. If the codes had been defined and separated better, then coding could have worked.

I didn't even think about that! Could you imagine having two of some of those type of specials: Hellfire Club's Tessa would be a fun one to keep both versions.
Title: Re: Specials with the same code from the same character are considered duplicates?
Post by: gameplan.exe on March 23, 2012, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: Jesse on March 23, 2012, 02:49:21 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on March 23, 2012, 02:47:51 PM
yeah, not to mention all of the coding errors that were in effect early in the game. Jubilee has 2 cards coded "AG" but one is for a teammate, one is for herself (I think CaptainA's and Cable's are the same way). We've always based duplication on the Special itself, not the codes. If the codes had been defined and separated better, then coding could have worked.

I didn't even think about that! Could you imagine having two of some of those type of specials: Hellfire Club's Tessa would be a fun one to keep both versions.

lol, exactly. still OPD based on code?  :D
Title: Re: Specials with the same code from the same character are considered duplicates?
Post by: Jesse on March 23, 2012, 02:59:59 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on March 23, 2012, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: Jesse on March 23, 2012, 02:49:21 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on March 23, 2012, 02:47:51 PM
yeah, not to mention all of the coding errors that were in effect early in the game. Jubilee has 2 cards coded "AG" but one is for a teammate, one is for herself (I think CaptainA's and Cable's are the same way). We've always based duplication on the Special itself, not the codes. If the codes had been defined and separated better, then coding could have worked.

I didn't even think about that! Could you imagine having two of some of those type of specials: Hellfire Club's Tessa would be a fun one to keep both versions.

lol, exactly. still OPD based on code?  :D

Sounds like a new *House Rule that will be coming out soon  ;D
Title: Re: Specials with the same code from the same character are considered duplicates?
Post by: Jack on March 23, 2012, 03:39:39 PM
Don't forget Crux. Very powerful chain with Coldforce and Heatforce.
Title: Re: Specials with the same code from the same character are considered duplicates?
Post by: AO user on June 30, 2014, 10:29:17 PM
So what about silver sables AA specials from a battle site or  Cruz from a site as well: they aren't  dups if they are on your team but that doesn't work from battlesite, right?
Title: Re: Specials with the same code from the same character are considered duplicates?
Post by: BasiliskFang on June 30, 2014, 11:30:47 PM
Quote from: AO user on June 30, 2014, 10:29:17 PM
So what about silver sables AA specials from a battle site or  Cruz from a site as well: they aren't  dups if they are on your team but that doesn't work from battlesite, right?
you get one AA and so on PER battle site. its that simple.