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[gameplan.exe]

When was she with Cyke?

Normal continuity.

SPOILERS

After Jean died (as the Dark Phoenix), Cyke left the team. On a plane ride he "randomly" met a woman named Madelyne Pryor, who struck Cyke as having an uncanny resemblence to Jean (she was in fact, a clone by Mr.Sinister, and planted on the plane to meet Cyke). They moved to Alaska and had a baby (to become Cable). Angel decides to start a new team (called X-Factor) and recruits Iceman and beast, but Cyke still wants to lead a "normal" life. When they discover that Jean is still alive (!), Cyke leaves his wife and child to join X-Factor. Eventually, he's overcome with the guilt of abandoning his family, so he goes back to AK to find them, only to discover that the entire town seems to have been "altered" (much like Nibelheim in FFVII) and his wife and child are nowhere to be found. (all of this can be found in the X-Factor Essentials Vol.1, btw).

^^^ I've read all of that first-hand, the following is what I've pieced together...

Some time later, Madelyne is angry about finding out she's a clone and she's actually possessed by demons from Mephisto, I think it was, and that's how she gains her "magikal powers" - I'm not sure what her plan was, but suffice it to say that she failed and the X-Men won 

[Demacus]

Gotcha.  Sounds like she was in the Inferno story arc that I've heard of, but have yet to read myself.

[Kal-el]

When was she with Cyke?

After Jean died. If i remember correctly, she was a clone of Jean and was married to Cyclops and is Cable's mother.

[Demacus]

So, the Goblyn Queen in the Mutant X story is simply the clone, but she hooked up with Havok instead of Cyclops?  Guess that makes sense considering the rest of that parallel universe.

[Onslaught]

Semi on-topic question: Where was Magneto during the Dark Phoenix Saga?

[Kal-el]

Semi on-topic question: Where was Magneto during the Dark Phoenix Saga?

I'm trying to think if he shows up at all after the issues set in his volcano base.

Jean and Beast escaped, and they think that the rest of the X-men died, so I'm assuming that Magneto was also presumed dead. This happened in issues 112 and 113.  He doesn't seem to show up anytime for Dark Phoenix began in 129, so I'm thinking just missing and presumed dead.

They search the same base after Dark Phoenix and he returns in 150.

[Onslaught]

It's too bad that he is absent from the whole arc, because it's kind of interesting to think about which side he would take (and to what degree he would interfere).

Though I would consider myself a "comic fan," I really haven't read a lot of actual individual comics. Ever since seeing some black and white Jack Kirby sketches in a "how to draw" book as a really young kid, I only really paid attention to the design and artwork of superheroes. As far as the characters go, I've always been more interested in the mythology of a character rather than whatever monthly storyline is going on in a given issue. This lets you think in broad terms, and have theoretical discussions about something like "yo...Thor vs. Magneto, what happens?!" or just waxing on about why a particular character is cool. I think it also gives some striking context to certain storylines that can be distilled down to their main elements. Since I have read (relatively) so few comics, any major development in a story arc seems to have extra significance to me.

For the Dark Phoenix Saga, that "distillation" puts into perspective how enormous the stakes were. A lot of people who prefer Marvel over DC will always bring up how the Marvel characters are more grounded. You have a bunch of people running around New York and wherever, with real problems, and superpowers that don't make them godlike figures. Spider-Man has absurdly powerful abilities, but he can't really go beyond the scope of stopping bank robberies and the like. Same goes for a lot of the mutants, with some obvious exceptions. So you have the X-Men set in this grounded Marvel universe of day to day encounters...and then suddenly the scale just magnifies 1000x larger. Magic space powers from a cosmic entity? Destruction of entire solar systems? Drawing the ire of galactic empires? Honor duels taking place on the moon?! Didn't Professor X go on to become even more entangled with space groups/the Shi'ar, and even go adventuring with the Starjammers for a while? It all sounds so grand, and it's just always made the whole saga stand out a lot in my mind. The design of Dark Phoenix's costume was also really iconic, and I was super psyched to see that they included it in Marvel vs. Capcom 3.

Anyway that got really off topic. Thanks for the reply though, I've really always wondered if Magneto had a reason for being absent, and now I sorta know!

[The Dude]

Just a little clarification on the whole Madelyne Pryor thing from above as Inferno is one of my all-time favorite crossovers.

1 - it should be noted that when she met and married Cyclops the reader had no idea she was a clone or that Mr. Sinister even existed yet. She was just a non-powered human that Cyclops moved on with after the death of his first love.

2 - She sold her soul to random Limbo demon named N'astrih who had been previosuly tormenting Magik of the New Mutants and she did it to get revenge on Cyclops for dumping her for Jean. One of the great things about that story is you could see where the villain was coming from. I mean Madelyne was married to and had a kid with Cyclops and one day he gets a phonecall that Jean is back and he just ups and leaves her and doesn't even try to call for months. (And while he was gone Sinister and Marauders tried to kill her and stole her baby), and when she finally recovers she sees her husband convorting with another woman on tv (X-factor had just saved NY from Apocalypse).

3 - The great plot twist of Inferno is while she starts the crossover with just the new magical powers, the demons who gave them to her did not she was a clone of Jean. And while Sinister created her a non-powered clone once she has magical power she begins uncnsciously tapping into the Phoenix Force and even the demons are like "oh crap" because now she's more powerful than they can control and things escalate from there.

[Demacus]

Wow...  that's insane.  And for years Cyclops was painted as this goody-two shoes, boyscout of a leader and in all actuality he is an adulterer and a dead-beat dad.  Gotta love how everyone seems to forget that he had the cojones to walk out on his family, clone or not.

[gameplan.exe]

Wow...  that's insane.  And for years Cyclops was painted as this goody-two shoes, boyscout of a leader and in all actuality he is an adulterer and a dead-beat dad.  Gotta love how everyone seems to forget that he had the cojones to walk out on his family, clone or not.

It's true about Cyke and the dead-beat part. When I read that for the first time (via Essential X-Factor) I was pretty mad. I always appreciated Cyke for always doing the right thing, and then there's this!? Still, at least it wasn't a ret-con of ridiculously out-of-character behavior like the whole ProfessorX-Krakoa B.S.

(wow, did this thread get off-topic, or what? lol)